September 21, 2021

The Teams One

This week’s guests are Laura Overton, Michelle Ockers, and Shannon Tipton.

Laura Overton ( London, UK)- Award winning global analyst author, facilitator & founder of Learning Changemakers with 30+ years of experience and research focussing on learning innovation, L&D maturity and business impact.Her Research programme reached 8000+ l&D leaders globally and over 50,000 workers.

Michelle Ockers (Brisbane, Australia) - Founder and chief learning strategist at Learning Uncut, award winning L&D practitioner and global podcast host providing strategic leadership on learning transformation including Coca-Cola Amatil, Qantas and Australian Public service)

Shannon Tipton (Chicago, USA) - Owner and Chief Architect Learning Rebels. 25+ years of learning leadership with the global reputation as the practitioners expert. As an experience practitioner challenging the norms of traditional L&D functions, Learning Rebel has brought real world experience to support business success at Zappos, the US Center for Child Nutrition and Talentify. 

The Emerging Stronger Team -

Team purpose -

Flat hierarchies -

Eight Ways to Build Collaborative Teams -

The five business benefits of a diverse team -

Stop at Nothing -

Forming, Storming, Norming, and Performing -

Team Dynamics -

The Five Dysfunctions of a Team -

Are you an ideal team player? -

Finding community -

What Psychological Safety Looks Like in a Hybrid Workplace -

“What makes a team effective at Google?” -

Belbin team roles -


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September 14, 2021

The Events One

This week’s guests are Katie Beck, Miriam Speidel, Sarah Frame, Kamla Kaur and Caroline Ford.
Katie Beck works for Blue Eskimo as a Recruitment Team Leader. She is experienced in recruiting and connecting with the most talented people in learning and development, training, and e-learning. She works with a variety of clients, across a range of industries including internal L&D departments, as well as with learning agencies and consultancies. If you are looking for your next role in L&D or perhaps you're looking to recruit a new member for your team, please get in touch with Katie:



Miriam Speidel is a L&D consultant for Engie, recently starting there after working as a People Development partner with LNER. Miriam is a creative, people-focused and passionate Senior L&D Professional with a track record of delivering impactful and award-winning learning initiatives.A strategic thinker, she translates plans into cost-effective and well-executed developmental solutions which help businesses meet their objectives, equip people with new skills and acknowledge and embed a culture of learning curiosity, agility and ownership.

Sarah Frame is a Consultant  and lead at FrameWorks Learning Consultancy Ltd. Sarah has significant experience and expertise in the field of online & distance learning and held various national and international Director level positions in both the commercial and higher education sectors. Sarah specialises in Consultancy in online learning strategies and implementations; Business Development; Product Development Sales & Marketing; Digital Learning; Strategic Development; Conference Presentations

Kamla Kaur heads the sales and marketing teams at Neoskill, passionately working to help organisations become more effective and productive through implementing quality training solutions. Kamla and her team are passionate about the service and solutions they provide clients: everything at Neoskill being client centric. As Sales & Marketing Director, Kamla oversees the development of high-profile accounts and truly believes in the Neoskill motto, “Development through quality training”.



Caroline Ford is starting as the Global Head of Learning Strategy - Skills Management for Novartis. Previously at Astra Zeneca and Thomas Cook, Caroline was recently highlighted by Growth Engineering as one of the top 20 L&D experts and influencers to keep an eye on in 2021. Her passion is for pushing the boundaries and delivering pioneering innovation in the learning and development space. Getting people excited about putting the customer at the heart of everything they do, Caroline is a firm believer in the development of customer-centric digital skills including Agile and Design Thinking.

Great British BusinessWoman Forum:


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September 7, 2021

The Podcast One

This week’s guests are Liz Drury and Heidi Kirby.

Liz Drury was born and brought up in Northamptonshire, and now lives in rural North Lincolnshire. She has a degree in Natural Sciences from the University of Durham, and a PhD in Archaeological Science from the University of Bradford.


After working in local television and education, she began working as a voiceover artist in 2013 whilst living in the USA. She has worked across many voiceover genres including commercials, e-learning, corporate videos and audio tours for clients such as Bulgari, VW, JCB, Booking dot com, Hilton Garden Inn, World Animal Protection and the NHS.


In 2017 she was named as one of the UK’s top 100 Small Businesses which led to an invitation to a reception at 10 Downing Street. She has also been nominated for a number of voiceover and business awards.


Liz is the host of the Small Business Big Network podcast which is for small business owners who want to get more from their networking. 






Heidi Kirby is a learning and development leader, Ph.D. candidate in instructional design and technology at Old Dominion University, and host of the BLOC (Building Learning and Organizational Culture) podcast for L&D professionals. 

A learning problem-solver, Heidi has over eight years’ experience leading learning projects. She got her start as a college English professor but has since worked as an instructional designer for NASA, a large health insurance company, a small tech startup, and a software company in her hometown of Cleveland, Ohio. She has led instructional design functions for small and mid-sized organizations throughout Northeast Ohio.

She was also instrumental in growing and serving as the VP of the volunteer organization, Teaching: A Path to Learning and Development, which helps educators find careers in L&D. For her PhD program, she is studying leadership competencies instructional designers need to be successful.

Her career goal is to continue to grow and foster her leadership skills to originate and lead learning functions for startup organizations.


Episode Links:

Anna Parker Naples -

Small Business Big Network Podcast -

BLOC Podcast -

Audacity -

Captivate -

Buzzsprout -

Storyblocks Music -

Royalty Free Music -

Austin Powers theme -

Woman Who Podcast Facebook group -

Canva -

Cleanfeed -

Squadcast -

Share a Coke Campaign -


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September 1, 2021

The Positive One

This week’s guests are Gillian Jones and Natalie Ellis.

Gillian Jones is Managing Director and founder of Emerge Development Consultancy. For over 25 years Gillian has worked on organisational strategy development and change initiatives with companies worldwide.

Gillian partners with many organisations to implement culture change and has designed and delivered programmes of varying sizes to national organisations and independent companies.

Gillian is also an author, having co-authored 50 Top Tools for Coaching which was published by Kogan Page in Autumn 2009 and is now on its 5th edition. Gillian is an expert in organisational culture change and her second book ‘How to Create a Coaching Culture Strategy’ is in its 2nd Edition.

In the last 5 years she has been specialising in championing Women’s development, specialising in supporting women to achieve their goals, develop their confidence and reach more Senior Positions.  In 2015 she developed the acclaimed Empowering Women’s programme RISE which is delivered in the UK and the Middle East.

Gillian is a regular speaker at many conferences specialising on the subject of Diversity and Inclusion and Women’s Development. She has a passion for equality and is working with many companies on Conscious Inclusion workshops with a particular focus on Black Lives Matter.





Natalie Ellis is Managing Director and founder of Rebox HR - a Virtual HR consultancy for UK based SME’s to resolve their employment queries. Natalie launched Rebox HR in February 2020. Natalie has significant commercial experience and worked for a number of high-profile companies including Woolworths Group,, Associated British Foods and Forterra PLC. With over 15 years experience in HR, Natalie is fully CIPD qualified to a Level 7 and holds Chartered Fellow CIPD status. 

Rebox HR has been nominated for several awards since it launched including a Woman Who award for Best New Start Up, The Small Awards for the New Kid on the Block and was awarded Best Virtual HR Consultancy 2020 by SME News.

Natalie published the book ‘Launch Your HR Career’ in January 2021.


Episode Links:

Positive psychology in a pandemic -

Locked Down But Not Out: A Covid Diary -

Launch Your HR Career -

Five Minute Journal App -

It took a pandemic to teach us these 5 simple truths -

What is Mindfulness? -

Here’s why women overthink everything -

Men and Women Process Emotions Differently -

The Little Book of Hygge: The Danish Way to Live Well -

Happiness Research Institute -

Cyclothymia -

Catch it, check it, change it -

The Power of Kindness at Work -


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August 24, 2021

The Innovation One

This week’s guests are Caroline Bennett-Jarvis and Egle Vinauskaite.

Caroline Bennett-Jarvis has over 20 years experience  as a human resource development practitioner; she is a committed humanitarian and an avid lifelong learner, currently managing and producing digital educational content for the US market. Originally from England, Caroline initially was formally educated in contemporary art, design, and craft, where she has been able to transcend her critical innovative thinking abilities into the corporate world in Barbados, her home for the past 22 years.  Her career path in L&D has been more vocational and experiential despite recently achieving MSc in Leadership and Human Resource Management accompanied with a dual CMI certification in Strategic Leadership and Management and currently pursuing CIPD qualification in Human Resource Development. Subsequently and as a result, her studies have been a valuable addition to a continuously exciting, growth oriented, professional and personal life fulfilling journey.


Egle Vinauskaite is a learning consultant who helps household brands and innovative edtech startups create evidence-based, impactful digital learning solutions. She has worked with such brands as Facebook, HSBC, Santander, ACCA, as well as some of the most exciting startups and creative agencies around.

Egle is also the director of Skillbright Labs, a boutique edtech product development consultancy, and the Rising Star Award winner at the Learning & Performance Institute's Learning Awards 2020. With a degree in Human Development from Harvard University, Egle specialises in applying adult development, behavioural economics and educational neuroscience principles to learning design.


Episode Links:

What is innovation -

What is ideation -

There's no losing, only learning -

Flearning -

What is Corporate Innovation? -

How Human Connection Contributes To Innovation -

Focused vs Diffused Thinking =

Focused and Diffuse: Two Modes of Thinking -

Advocates Against Domestic Abuse -

A Technique for Producing Ideas by James Webb Young -

Grassroots Innovation -

How to Build a Culture of Deep Creativity -

The Rise of Fake Innovation -

Fail Fast … the Story of Innovation, Persistence and WD-40 -

Does Diversity Actually Increase Creativity? -


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August 17, 2021

The Social Learning One

This week’s guests are Catherine Dartnall and Rachel Burnham.

Catherine is a versatile Learning Designer and Consultant with a passion for putting people at the heart of every design. She takes a human-centred approach to create the best possible experience using the technology and tools that are available.  

With over 20 years of experience working in learning and technology, Catherine has worked in many roles across multiple functions, including working as a Learning Designer in both Corporate and HE sectors designing for a range of platforms including FutureLearn.  

Catherine has a Masters in Online & Distance Education from the Open University which she often describes as being a transformative learning experience.  Reflecting on this experience enables Catherine to put herself in the shoes of others who are learning online.  

 You can connect with Catherine on LinkedIn:

Or find her on Twitter:

Rachel Burnham is Director and Consultant for Burnham L&D.  She has worked in L&D and OD for about 30 years and is still learning about learning and people. She specialises using visuals to help people work, think and learn more effectively and is an avid Sketchnoter. 

Rachel has worked across the private, public and voluntary sectors and currently is the Chair of CIPD Manchester.   

She can be found on Twitter:

And you can read her blogs at L&D Matters:

Episode Links:

What is Sketchnoting? -

Simon Heath -

Doug Shaw -

Working Out Loud -

Lev Vygotsky's Sociocultural Theory -

Creswell Crags -

HT2 launches Massive Open Online Course to Explore Social Learning with Curatr -

Transforming workplace learning through Curation -

10L: Martin Couzins -

What is a MOOC -

Asynchronous vs. Synchronous Learning: A Quick Overview -

Why MOOCs Didn't Work, in 3 Data Points -

Unconference -

Rhizo14 – The MOOC that community built -

Critical Thinking Skills -

Learning How to Learn: Powerful mental tools to help you master tough subjects -

What is the Difference Between xMOOCs and cMOOCs? -

Social learning tools -

Agoraphobia and the modern learner -

Introduction to communities of practice -

10 Things a Social Leader Does -

Behaviorist Approach -



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August 10, 2021

The Wellbeing One

This week’s guests are Helen Hill and Martine Bolton.
Helen is a self-employed Digital Learning and Content Designer at Unlikely Genius Ltd. 
Unlikely Genius is based on the principles of ensuring the user comes first, communicating in plain language and making content available to all, living by the mantra ‘The content you make is not for you’. She works as a contractor for eLearning agencies in the UK and Europe, plus has ongoing projects with the NHS, charities and a number of private sector clients in industries from health, to technology and media. 
Her first self-help business book, Falling off the Ladder, is out in October 2021. Helping people make the mindset shit from employment and the corporate ladder to thrive in self-employment. 
Helen lives in semi-rural West Yorkshire with the long-suffering Graham, and two extremely fluffy, diva rabbits Tiffin and Strudel. 
You can find out more about the book at and can connect with Helen via:
Martine Bolton is a trainer, coach, consultant and author of the book 'Your Thinking is Your Superpower'.
Her business 'Sunshine Corporate & Personal Development' provides transformational Thinking Skills, Wellbeing and Personal Effectiveness training and coaching to businesses and organisations looking to become more agile, resilient and future-fit.
Episode Links:
You are not your body -
Ounce of prevention -
Interdisciplinary research on Wellbeing -
On Well-Being: Current Research Trends And Future Directions -
OU Research on Wellbeing -
Nature and Mental Health -
Puberty and the pressure on girls to exercise -
The Instagram Aesthetic Is Over -
Gender stereotypes and workplace bias -
Freelance Heroes -
Being Freelance podcast -
Here’s why planning a trip can help your mental health -
Find open water swimming venues -
Has the pandemic really caused a 'tsunami' of mental health problems? -
Owning a Cat Good for the Heart? -
Cat Owners Have Lower Heart Attack Risk, Study =
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August 3, 2021

The Career One

Our guests this week are Dr Sara Thompson and Kate Graham.

Dr. Sara Thompson is the Chair of the Master of Science in Counselling and Human Services program at Post University, and has been teaching in higher education since 2013. In addition to possessing her doctorate degree in psychology, Sara recently earned another graduate degree, a M. Ed. in Learning Design and Technology. In addition to her full-time employment, Sara also teaches psychology to domestic and international high school students and freelances as an instructional designer. Sara has experience in higher education, online learning, instructional design, human resources and non-profit advocacy work. Sara serves as a guardian ad litem in SC, USA and an advocate for women who have experienced domestic/intimate partner violence. In her free time, Sara can be found on the beach with her senior pup Ms. Maude or relaxing at home with both her fur babies (Ms. Maude and Good Kitty).
Sara can be reached through LinkedIn -

Episode Links:
Covid’s impact on women -
Covid and gender equality -
Talent mobility -
Remote working and happiness -
Flexible hours and productivity -
Tips for a better work life balance -
Boundaries -
Learning Now TV -
Training Journal Podcast -
Mean Girls -
Danny Seals’ Mindchimp Podcast -
Women in Learning on LinkedIn -

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Our guests this week are Nandita Kulkarni and Tabitha Dragonbery.
Nandita started her career designing learning and facilitating in the academic context. Having moved to the corporate sphere more than 14 years ago, she has worked across different geographies and led teams delivering learning especially in the technology-led space. Currently in Dubai, she brings a strong consultative mindset with a holistic design perspective to every project.
Tabatha Dragonberry is a Learning and Development professional with a varied background both in academia and corporate. She is passionate about helping others who are getting into instructional design as a coach and mentor. She is also a Registered Respiratory Therapist and continues to serve the health care community as the host of The Vent Room Podcast.
Episode Links:
What is Instructional Design? -
What is Learning Experience Design? -
Six Sigma -
EduTok -
5 Whys -
Just enough learning -
Pet stars -
Aaron’s animals -
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Learning objectives -
Keeping Up with the Kardashians -
A call to men -
Why I’m done trying to be man enough -
Esther Perel -

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July 20, 2021

The Disruption One

Our guests this week are Serena Gonsalves-Fersch and Dr Alaina Szlachta.
Serena is the head of SoftwareONE’s Talent Academy – an initiative focusing on developing and employing the next generation of talent across the world, whilst giving back in education and opportunities to local communities. An accomplished and recognised Learning & Talent Development senior leader, Serena thrives in fast paced and exploratory environments where her creative and intuitive leadership are highly valued. She is a Fellow of the Learning and Performance Institute, and currently also a doctoral candidate at Middlesex University, researching into the future of Learning and the L&D function in technology accelerating organisations. Serena has operated globally and across cultures as head of internal learning functions, a management consultant for external clients, and as a service line lead with client/ revenue responsibility.
Dr. Alaina Szlachta is a learning architect and mission-driven entrepreneur. She founded the company By Design Development Solutions, helping authors and entrepreneurs translate their unique subject matter expertise into consumer learning products that cause positive transformation. With over 12 years of experience in teaching, instructional design, program management, and educational evaluation, Alaina has proudly served industry experts in higher education, diversity and inclusion, finance, victim services, real estate, healthcare, and software development. When Alaina is not building learning products, you can find her renovating houses, taking long walk-and-talks with friends, and working out with her 82-year-old mentor. Connect with Alaina on LinkedIn, Instagram or via her website:

Episode Links:
Build vs Buy -
Transfer Success -
Work Learning Research -
5 moments of need -
LnD Playbook for the Digital Age -
Consumer behaviour -


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